海角乱伦

hello madmax,

it ok that I would like to add your facebook?

send me a private message. I don't normally give out my facebook info, it is another part of my life, not for public consumption! I do make occasional exceptions!

Hello,
nice blog, good story, I enjoy reading it.
Little sad to see that some people just don't get it. They look for "love" in bars, and when they are brutally dumped after spending loads of money on the lovely angel they tend to think that ALL women in Asia must be like that.
Abusive use of the inductive reasoning. Seen many different cases. Same sad blind eyes.
Most south-asian women seem to be confortable with their female role in society, I believe that alone this quality makes them great partners for a man. Just dont pick up a bar girl if you want the real think, well, who knows, maybe I am wrong....

Peace and Love....

An update! I finally found someone in the Hong Kong Marriage Registry office who spoke good English, and knew just what I needed to do. I downloaded the Information Form, the "Notice of Intended Marriage" form, all 11 pages of it. It turns out that 4 of the pages were Chinese duplicates, and all the others had one line for English, and one for Chinese. Filling it out took about an hour. Finding a Notary Public in Sihanoukville was a much longer process. I called one on a Wednesday, who promised to call me on Friday, but never did. After a futile trip up to Phnom Penh, I finally was told by the Notary Public Organization that they would be glad to do it, but they were closed on Saturday, the only day I was going to be there. Back in Sihanoukville, I tried the one I had called on Wednesday, and he agreed to meet me Monday afternoon. I always ascribe to the wisdom of not giving out too much information to people connected with the legal system anywhere, I had the document opened to the page where I needed him to notarize my signature. He had no problem with this, and notarized my signature. I paid him $50, and then asked him where I could get a draft payable in Hong Kong dollars. He indicated a bank near by, and the next day I went there, only to find that they could not do any such thing. Checking with several more banks, I found the same thing. Discouraged, I went home and called the HK Marriage Registry, talking to the same, wonderful lady, who told me that they would also take a check in US dollars for $53, an extra $13or so for them to convert the US funds into Hong Kong dollars. I went to my bank Tuesday afternoon, got a check made out to the right place, put the whole packet of forms, copies of my divorce decree, copies of both of our passports into a large envelope, moto'd down to the post office, and $4.50 later, our application was on it's way to Hong Kong. I was told that they would e-mail me with an appointment for the week prior to the date I picked for getting married (October 31). Now it's a waiting game, hoping that all the documents are correct, and there is no problem with the date I selected. Once I get the OK, I'll buy the air tickets, book our room, and its off we go. I hope!

I love your story , you the good Bloke if you have a Facebook share me a link like to see both of your pics

all the best MM !!!!

As my attempts at this have taken more twists and turns than a mountain road, I hope for the best, but who can tell? Maybe my lifetime of bad karma has been used up, and I will enjoy the rest of my days with Chroeb, and good karma!

Hi MM
For a change, you聽 visit me someday with Chroeb in Sri Lanka. You can stay in my house any time. My French friend is coming next week to spend a month at my place.
Greetings

Mal has offered honeymoon packages to Mad Max n Chroeb . go for it

Got word from Hong Kong - one form I missed for Notarizing, and they seem to have a problem with my banks cheque. We will get that solved, and see what other adventures this has in store for us. We may have to push back聽 the date, but that's OK, as long as it finally happens!
Honeymoon in Sri Lanka?聽 Hmmmm.

This was such an interesting experience.

Finally got my new bank account at ANZ, one of the few banks that can actually issue bank DRAFTS in a foreign currency. Tried to do it right after opening the account, but (of course, there's a but), the person who does that was out to lunch. I'll聽 be back at 3:00PM to try again. This will hopefully be the last document I need to send to Hong Kong. Ball is in their court, only waiting to pick a date, after my paperwork is processed.
I did find a good man in Sihanoukville who is a Notary. If you need one down here, check Solomon Law offices. He is not there every day, but call him to make an appointment.

Big News! We have finally got a date for our wedding in Hong Kong. November 14th, at the Cotton Tree Drive Marriage Registry. I had to hire witnesses, as I don't know anyone in Hong Kong, and I don't think anyone would want to fly over there! One of my witnesses will be taking pictures, so if any of you would like to see them, you will have to go to my facebook page. Thanks to all of you for your support, advice and good thoughts. This closes one chapter in our lives, and opens another.

congratulations both of you wish I was there but wait for the F/B

suerte007 wrote:

Mal has offered honeymoon packages to Mad Max n Chroeb . go for it

Hey.... listen! MM is my friend! Am so happy to invite them!

Great news! Congrats sweet friends! Am so happy! Love birds can fly in USA now!

madmax888 wrote:

Big News! We have finally got a date for our wedding in Hong Kong. November 14th, at the Cotton Tree Drive Marriage Registry. This closes one chapter in our lives, and opens another.

Hi please could you tell me what the requirements to open an Anz bank acct ?

You need a passport and a Cambodian Visa with at least 3 months more time on it. They would also like to see a business in your name, but that can be waived.

Congrats Madmax, great news. Hope you enjoy HK. Keep us posted, would love to see your pics, dinner invitation is still open when you are in PP. I had a great Canadian Thanksgiving dinner in my apartment roast turkey with all the add ons except pumpkin pie.....was a feast if I may say so myself, the 7 guests seemed to enjoy it as well.

Tomorrow, we hit the road at 6AM, to go to the airport. Dragon Air leaves at 11:30AM, and arrives in Hong Kong at 3:30PM. Shuttle to the Ramada, and check into a 28sq meter suite! Ceremony at Cotton Tree Drive Marriage Registry on Thursday, at 3:15PM. After many, many months of trying, and waiting, it's finally going to happen! Pics will be on my facebook page after we get home!
Thank you to all my Forum friends for all your support over the past 3 years of this adventure.
I will complete the book, and try to get it published next year!

bravo so happy to hear

Congratulations! Best of luck to you both.

Congratulations MM!
All the best and like to see your pics soon.

Congratulations. May you be happy.

A very interesting to have that comment to Filipina. Thank You so much. Unfortunately I am a Filipina. I will be living in Cambodia fo good. If sometime we can meet and have a coffee and talk a lot things that would be great .

Keep it up, sir..

God bless your heart.

Hi Max,i also am living here and there are no shortage of women to look after you here for the right price.Before you start thinking that i think you give her money ,i dont..not right now anyway.I guarantee you that you've been given a line,a story.They will play it really cool for a few months or more depending on what your like.I'm sure you will be getting set up. Tuk tuk dont know girls that are really nice, only ones that are about playing men. Nobody here wants real advice, they ask for it and when they hear something they dont like then they will say"your just a cynical bastard". true, i am, but its served me well here. BE VERY CAREFUL, i could tell you a 100 storys of guys getting taken to the cleaners here..thats my tuppence worth if you want to take anything on board,all the best.Gary

Gazawest, I guess you didn't read the whole posting, and see that Chroeb and I have been living together for nearly 3 years now. I know her whole family, and had some business dealings with them. They have proven to me that they are decent, honest people, who work for their living, and don't expect any support from me. I have loaned one some money, which he HAS paid back already, with interest. Don't be so quick to judge her! She is not like the typical, city girl, looking for a quick buck from a Farang. After 3 years now, I think she has proven herself to me.

So... Did you think this marriage would be easy? Without complications? With no hitches to getting hitched? So did we! Well, guess what? We were all wrong!
Read on...
We got to Hong Kong Monday afternoon, landing around 3PM. Easy time getting through immigration, customs, etc. Found a taxi to take us to our hotel, for $380 (that's Hong Kong dollars, about $40 USD). Checked in, got to our room, a 2 room suite, with living area, bedroom, foyer with fridge, coffee set-up, etc. The Ramada Hong Kong was very nice, at only $120 USD per night, reasonable for Hong Kong. Out for dinner, then back to the room.
聽 聽Tuesday, the plan was to go to the HK Marriage Registration Office, finish up our paperwork, show them the original divorce decree, pay the fees and leave... Wednesday was supposed to be a shopping day, to buy Chroeb a wedding dress. Thursday was supposed to be the end, the easy day. My how plans change.
We got to the Marriage Registry and sat with a clerk, and went over the documents, no problem. Then I had to read this official statement, written in English, and Chinese, of course, testifying that the information on the forms was correct (our聽 names, address, dates of birth, parents name), and sign the form. That's where things go sour...
They give Chroeb the same statement, which, of course, she can't read, as her reading skills are still nowhere near up to the level needed to understand many of the terms. They asked if we had friends come with us to be witnesses, and I explained that I had arranged to have witnesses for the ceremony, but not here, as I didn't think they were needed. The clerk said that we would have to find someone to interpret the statement into Cambodian, so Chroeb could understand it. I was not permitted to translate and tell Chroeb what it said, it would have to be a 3rd party. Houston, we have a problem... I called our witness, Christie. She agreed to come down to the Marriage offices, and interpret as best she could. She did, but Chroeb could still not comprehend what she was trying to tell her, as the form was written in legalese, and had many words not easy to understand. We were unable to proceed until we found an interpreter who spoke Cambodian!
Apparently, there are not many Cambodians in Hong Kong. There is a Cambodian Consulate office, but they have no capabilities for translators or interpreters, and were unable to help. The information desk gave me a list of translators, which I called, and found that of the 5 she gave me, 2 number were no longer working, 2 offices did only document translation, and the 5th never answered in English. Once again, we were screwed by the various systems.
We went back to the hotel, with Chroeb and I both very upset. I found the hotel concierge very helpful, and he checked his sources, and the internet, to no avail. There was not even 1 Cambodian restaurant or business in this city of over 7 million people! It appeared that once again, we were not going to be able to get married! I had to go up to our room, and tell Chroeb that we were not going to be able to get married... We tried to eat, but neither of us had much appetite. We went to bed, disappointed, discouraged and sad.
Wednesday, we decided to go shopping, and found a "Ladies Market" with booth after booth of clothes and accessories. Spent about $250 on clothes for Chroeb, about $75 for me, ate a nice lunch. I splurged and bought a new phone, a Samsung Galaxy III, not the latest, but has almost all the capabilities!聽 We then went back to the hotel around 3PM, and I called my witness, Christie, a 30's something Chinese woman, to let her know that we would not be needing her assistance. She told me that I should not give up, and that I should go back to the Marriage Registry, and ask again if an exception could be made.
Thursday, the day we were scheduled to be married, dawned with little hope, and I was still mulling over the chances of success in trying again, as I had tried all the avenues I knew of on the internet, and asking the hotel. After breakfast, back at the hotel, I decided we had little to lose, and we SHOULD try again. We dashed back to the Marriage office, and at the information window, I asked again if an exception could be made. She checked with her supervisor. No luck there. Then, the most amazing thing happened. Her supervisor checked with聽 the Supreme Court of Hong Kong, and found...聽
A PART-TIME interpreter! Not listed on the internet, this woman speaks Chinese AND Cambodian, and is probably the only one in Hong Kong. She wanted to speak to Chroeb, so I called her, on my new phone, and they talked. She was busy at that moment, but agreed to meet us at 2PM, and interpret for us.
With the wedding scheduled for 3:15, this was cutting it really close!
Dashing back to the hotel, I realized that though Chroeb had actually bought 2 nice dresses, and could look good for the ceremony, I had nothing but black jeans, a long-sleeve, blue and white shirt, and white Adidas running shoes - a find marriage ensemble! Chroeb dressed, I polished up as good as I could, an we taxied back to Marriage office (our 4th trip there in 2 days, Tuesday and Thursday). Waiting until 1:50, when the interpreter showed up! We completed the documents, had the interpreter do her thing, and the everything was signed.
But wait! There was yet another document to be signed, at the Cotton Tree Drive location that I had picked for the ceremony. The Interpreter was kind enough to agree to interpret here as well. It was now 2:30PM, and getting really close, so the clerk had an office assistant hand carry all our documents, with all 3 of us in tow, and we walked about 4 blocks to the wedding ceremony offices. Where once again, we had documents to sign, be interpreted, and paid the $92 (USD).
Our witnesses showed up, Christie and her friend Christine arrived just in time.
Shown to a nice room, with a long table, we signed the marriage certificate, and a lovely, woman official said her speech, I read an official statement, Chroeb spoke hers, with help from the interpreter...

AND WE WERE MARRIED!!!!
Photos will be on Facebook, as soon as I finish downloading, and editing the whole lot. If you want to see them, please send a private message, and I will give you my Facebook info.

Hi Madmax.,

I have followed your really interesting story from very early on.
I'm so happy for you that against all of the odds you and Chroeb are finally married.
My Hearty Congratualtions to you both.
May you have a Long and Happy Marriage
Best Regards
Reg

Hello Madmax, don't worry about gazawest, He is just jealous because he is paying hookers for quickie he cannot support a woman like you do with love.He is talking about sex and the money.

Thanks, Suerte, I do tend to get annoyed by those who don't/won't take the time to read the whole story, and just take things out of context. Sure, there are many girls out there, doing just as Gazawest says, but there are still many "good" girls who are just happy to find a good guy, they are just harder to find because they don't spend their time in "Hello" bars! I spent many years doing just what he does, and paying for sex. But I was aware that they are there just for that, and neither they nor I was looking for more.

You have changed and through that change has brought more understanding and love ... The Hongkong affair to get married has also been a blessing too as your present wife and you have learned some valuable experiences to pass on聽 pay it forward! !On another note聽 Gaza west is too busy giving advice,so not listening or paying attention ,or lack of patience to read your blogs ...Must show up in his life regularly these lack of qualities . ... bless you聽 both and聽 i hope one day to greet you both when i am in your home town ! P in聽 PP

One more thing to add. If it hadn't been for Christie, one of my 2 required witnesses, this wouldn't have happened. It was her insistence that we try again on Thursday morning. Only after some deliberation, I decided that we had little to lose, and everything to gain. In addition, she, and her friend Christine, also took many pictures, some of the ceremony, and many in Hong Kong park, the city park surrounding the Cotton Tree office. Christine, we are both ever grateful for all your help. You will always be in our hearts.

Today I added about 100+ pictures of the wedding, and before and after. If you want to view them, send me a private message, and I will give you my Facebook information.

At this point, I think I will end this forum posting, as a major milestone in our lives has been reached. I will now complete the book I have been writing, and see if I can publish it.

hey MadMax
Don't run away yet wait till people finish comment on your photos then say good bye to all ok? you start it This love story so wait till finished all the comment.
you will be always welcome to meet me on corner of the road if you keep in touch.

Cheers Bro
Sonny

Of course I will wait for comments. I would thank them all. The second part of our lives will be in the book. I will still add forum postings, and answer others.

Good on you Max, see you around
Cheers

Max
A good ending for you and your wife. I admire your determination and dedication to achieve what you wanted.
As the saying goes "all comes to he who waits"