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MGLOVER100

Hi,

Our Complex Baskan has told owners to identify the foul water drains, provide an inspection point to be paid for individually.

The drainage is situated outside of the property and on common owned land which is maintained by all owners on site (72)

My understanding is any issues that are on mutual owned land is a joint responsibility and not an individual owners, am I correct?

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Borraro

Yes you are right unless it is about the pipes within apartment. Those are not accepted common property. Apartment's own drains responsibility belongs owner.

MGLOVER100

No it's pipes that leads from the apartment to the manhole which is 4 meters away in the middle of a lawned area

cdw057

I am simple and Dutch, all should be covered by maintenance fee (in Turkey Aidat), but things work different. In Netherlands monthly Aidat can be easily up to EUR 350 pm, in Turkey they complain of it is EUR 30.

Problem of meeting and manco, but I would say if you would pay EUR 100 pm, issue closed.

Unfortunately we have these type of discussions (not per se water pipe), people want 100% service but they do not want to pay (from time to time frustrating)

Borraro

If within apartment garden boundaries, each flat owner should pay share proportion.

If not, then water and sewerage service of municipality should do.

I guess...

MGLOVER100

@Borraro

The individual owners don't have private gardens, they belong to all owners

cdw057

A problem of manco I would say and the ownership of the complex. There will be always issues, in a way living in a village is easier in terms of responsibility,

On the other side who cares about a few EUR extra here or there.

Borraro

I mrant shared garden, belonging complex. If so, everyone should pay in accordance with share proportion. If the garden is not complex's property, then public service should handle it.

I assume that it is not unlicenced construction.

MGLOVER100

@cdw057

We already pay 21,000 TL in site fees

Borraro

As a deed holder, you always have the right to ask the accounts..

MGLOVER100

@Borraro

The accounts are in good shape we finished the year with a £22,000 (sterling) surplus plus another £3300 owing

mnaghbash

@MGLOVER100 is 21,000tl in a year?

MGLOVER100

Yes per annum

cdw057

@MGLOVER100 We pay far too less (TRY 900 pm), in the Netherlands EUR 300 is normal, in my view in a complex as we are it should be TRY 2.000 pm (at least). In my view TRY 3000 or even more would have been fine.

How can you maintain (also for concierge, management company, elevators, swimmingpool, repairs, etc. etc.) for TRY 900 pm????