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Having been an expat for a long time, I learned to let go. If you鈥檙e going to be an expat and lead an expat life you鈥檒l eventually let go of 鈥渉ome.鈥� And this is my opinion, and this transformation if you want to call that means you build a life where you are at

You鈥檒l always miss home if you feel like an outsider. You have to make your new country 鈥渉ome鈥�, if that makes any kind of sense. You can always keep in touch with friends and family and even visit them or vice versa, but to defeat homesickness you have to make the country you want to live in home too. It may seem impossible, but that鈥檚 exactly what you have to do, and it can be achieved with assimilating in your new home.

My perspective is for the long term, not someone who is doing a one or two year expat stint. You want to alleviate or better yet eliminate homesickness, make your new country home. Ecuador is a beautiful place to do that. Beautiful, calm, and understanding people.

And personally. I've been here almost a year, and it's not "home", yet but working on it.

I don't feel very homesick becuase I have direc tv and I get bloomberg news like I had in the USA and it keeps me up to date on whats going on in the USA. It makes me feel in touch with my homeland.

schrifty wrote:

I don't feel very homesick because I have direc tv and I get bloomberg news like I had in the USA and it keeps me up to date on whats going on in the USA. It makes me feel in touch with my homeland.

Righty-oh, Schrifty, to borrow a phrase from expat.com鈥檚 Top Cat.聽 How many of these shows do you catch during a typical week these days, Schrifty?...

Top 10 Shows Available to 海角乱伦s in South America Via DirecTV .. on the Bloomberg TV Channel and CNN International....

10.聽 鈥淐harlie Rose鈥�: in-depth interviews on politics, theatre, the cinema and other topics.聽 Bloomberg.

9.聽 鈥淎nderson Cooper鈥� .. an evening news wrap-up with coverage of late-breaking developments, hosted by the white-haired whiz.聽 CNN.

8.聽 鈥淧olitical Mann,鈥� a weekend wrap-up of the political doings in the U.S. hosted by Jonathan Mann.聽 CNN.

7.聽 鈥淲ith All Due Respect,鈥� daily political insights with plentiful guests, discussions of major U.S. news -- especially the Trump-Clinton contest, hosted by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann.聽 Bloomberg.

6.聽 鈥淲olf,鈥� Mr. Blitzer鈥檚 take on the news of the day.聽 CNN.

5.聽 聽鈥淲orld Sport,鈥� a Europe-heavy roundup that also includes NFL clips and -- in season -- highlights from events including the Super Bowl, the NBA playoffs and the World Series.聽 CNN.

4.聽 鈥淎manpour鈥�:聽 Globe-trotting Christiane Amanpour may be interviewing the ex-president of Colombia about the FARC peace treaty one night .. and breaking down the European refugee situation the next.聽 CNN.

3.聽 鈥淪tate of the Race鈥�:聽 Spirited Kate Bolduan presents a zippy review on weekdays of the latest Trump vs. Clinton dustups .. with the back half of the 30-minute program devoted to a panel discussion of topics concerning the presidential race.聽 CNN.

2.聽 鈥淰ital Signs,鈥� in which health-related topics are presented by host Sanjay Gupta.聽 CNN.

And the #1 show on CNN and Bloomberg, for 海角乱伦s....

1.聽 鈥淨uest Means Business,鈥� in which the muscular and irrepressible Brit, Richard Quest, presents financial news and interviews with business chieftains.聽 The weekend version, 鈥淭he Best of Quest,鈥� includes highlights from the past week鈥檚 shows.聽 Richard Quest visited the U.S. this summer -- presenting reports from Mount Rushmore, the national parks and Las Vegas.聽 Heading east, he was called away last weekend in his short-sleeved shirt from a downtown Manhattan dinner party .. and pressed into service for his network doing live reports during the early hours of the West 23rd Street explosion story.聽 CNN.

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My decision to move to Ecuador had been well researched, at least as far as what you could learn on the internet. I was sick of winter and the overly regulated life in Canada, plus I was not ready to just mold away what years I had left and wanted some adventure. I left Canada fully intending to never return.

Then culture shock reared its ugly head. Having spent two years in Panama I thought I was ready for it. My Spanish was weak but I knew I could improve. I expected that Ecuadorians would be similar to Panamanians in that they value family and religion and they lead a much slower pace of life. I welcomed that.

Nothing could have prepared me for the very bad things that happened to me. In Panama I always felt that the rule with the locals was "if you've got it they'll just take it". I hoped that Ecuador would be different. It wasn't. Between getting ripped off and all the normal things I missed in Canada I soon longed to be back. There was the ever present barking of the dogs. There was the ugly bare concrete block walls everywhere. There was a very frustrating government to deal with. I thought the government in Canada was bad but nothing prepares you for Ecuador.

In a way I was lucky because I didn't have to make the tough decision to go back to Canada. The falling Canadian dollar left me with not enough to live on, even in Ecuador, and I had to return. Now that the costs of visas and residency have doubled I doubt I will go back. Although I met some wonderful Ecuadorians, the many people who ripped me off left me with a poor impression of Ecuador.

ChecMark wrote:

There was the ever present barking of the dogs. There was the ugly bare concrete block walls everywhere. There was a very frustrating government to deal with. I thought the government in Canada was bad, but nothing prepares you for Ecuador.

Mark鈥檚 report of bare walls and ever-present barking of dogs is highly credible for someone who is scraping by financially in Ecuador.

Someone with an income of $1,500 a month* or more -- including enough extra money to move out of such a challenged neighborhood, if necessary -- can live under more pleasant circumstances in the highland cities.聽 Of course, if one insists on moving to Nalgas del Cerdo, Sucumb铆os province, one probably will hear round-the-clock barking dogs.

Even 海角乱伦s with conversational Spanish will find the Spanish legalese challenging when dealing with the visa bureaucracy.聽 I am aware that a few newcomers enjoy the challenge of obtaining a visa on their own.聽 However, 92 percent of arriving 海角乱伦s should use a recommended attorney or visa facilitator if they can afford it.

cccmedia in Quito

*This figure is arbitrary.聽 Some folks can find a rental in a relatively quiet neighborhood and get by on a monthly budget of less than this.

ChecMark wrote:

Between getting ripped off and all the normal things I missed in Canada....

....the many people who ripped me off left me with a poor impression of Ecuador.

Since there鈥檚 no indication you got robbed by ladrones on the street, I have no idea what you mean by 鈥渞ipped off.鈥�

Living in Quito for 3-1/2 years, I can think of few times I鈥檝e been 鈥渞ipped off鈥� -- and I鈥檝e hired a variety of folks to upgrade my condo, do various repairs, assist me in getting a visa and drivers license .. and so forth.聽 The lone exceptions were a taxi driver who got me to cough up an extra $10 while we were going through a desolate area of Quito late at night .. and losing a cheap phone and cheaper sunglasses to pickpocketing on the Ecov铆a transit line.聽 聽

If you post again, Mark, perhaps you could be more specific about your experiences.

cccmedia in Quito

Home is where the heart is. Since we are a couple we are always at home, no matter where we are. In the last 10 years we have lived in:

Bulgaria
India
Thailand
Chile
Argentina
Kuala Lumpur
And now Ecuador

(We have visited many more countries in the same period)

We just had a brief visit in the US (a few months to get a winery set up, I am a wine consultant) and being back was a bigger culture shock than anything we got traveling. Outside of the US we expect things to be different, but it was "home" that turned out to be by far the strangest experience.

The Internet keeps us more or less up to date on the news, and Netflix gives us Emglish entertainment. We haven't found that we need much more