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tomtomshay

any goodย  companies HCMC ? for moc by border runs

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OceanBeach92107

any good companies HCMC ? for moc by border runs - @tomtomshay

that depends upon what you need.


if you are simply looking for transportation, let us know if you want a motorbike driver or a van or a bus or a private car.


All of the feedback we are getting from long-time residents in HCMC is that there isn't any company that can provide you a new visa before you leave the country.


there are some companies in Vietnam that will arrange for you to have your application pre-filled prior to crossing the border along with your fees already paid to them.


Then once you exit the country you take the photo of your exit stamp and send it to the visa agent and they will arrange for your new urgent Visa within three or four hours, at which time you can turn around and come back in to Vietnam.

OceanBeach92107

No matter which company you choose, problems beyond anyone's control are always possible... (this on a ฤร  Nแบตng/Lao Bแบฃo border run by bus)


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1happykamper

@OceanBeach92107

I know of one company in Da Nang.


How many times a year can I apply for an "urgent visa" though? I plan on staying more than a year or five.

OceanBeach92107

@OceanBeach92107
I know of one company in Da Nang.
How many times a year can I apply for an "urgent visa" though? I plan on staying more than a year or five. - @1happykamper

There are now well over a half dozen Visa agencies spamming the บฃฝวยายืs in Danang FB group,


I only trust two of them and routinely recommend only one (maybe the same one you know about)


You must know that your question has no definitive answer?


Each individual applicant is treated separately based upon their own history and their country of origin and behind the scenes factors that nobody knows.


Technically every application is an absolutely brand new request, and Visa agents make these urgent requests everyday, not just for people doing border runs but also for last minute travelers who didn't know any better.


if you are sincerely worried about being rejected for some reason, then it's probably best to plan at least two of your annual visa runs to be flights to nearby countries.


fly to Thailand for a one or two week vacation and apply for your visa as soon as you get there, normal routine. you should get it within 3 to 5 days max.


Then, 6 months later, fly back there or fly to another Southeast Asian country.


it's really not a significant difference in price between having the agent file for an urgent visa when you leave the country and you want to reenter within 2 to 4 hours, or to take a cheap coach flight to a nearby country.


I have one buddy in Quy Nhฦกn who likes to use his Visa runs to spend about a week on his motorbike in Laos.


The ultimate decision made by immigration is going to be affected a lot by your Visa activity. so if you are going in and out of the country every two weeks on a 90 day visa, then you are definitely going to run into problems pretty soon, as they see that as possible reason to suspect smuggling activity.

yng68bld

Seems like on FB and YT, lots of people are talking about L in DN and the recent price hike with the express service.

OceanBeach92107

Seems like on FB and YT, lots of people are talking about L in DN and the recent price hike with the express service. - @yng68bld

Yeah, a lot of blah, blah, blah from the same people who expect 3 hour videos on YouTube without commercials, without having to pay for YT Premium.


L is pretty savvy about what it costs to fly out of the country (or cross the border) for 3 to 5 days and pay for accomodations there while waiting.


She's always made it clear that she's essentially selling convenience, and usually at a significant savings over doing the better part of a week out of the country.


Plus, do it through her and you know you are pre-approved before you leave the country and that you definitely are going to be turning around and coming back within 4 hours.


Get on the plane and fly to Thailand and you take the chance that there's going to be some problem with your visa, as many people from myriad countries are discovering.


Then you'll be contacting her or another agent for an urgent visa on top of the expenses you've incurred on your mini vacation.


I think I'm especially supportive of her business model because during COVID, she was the only agent who remained active in ฤร  Nแบตng, helping many people get extensions when they thought they had to leave the country.


I know because ฤร  Nแบตng was my home during the summer of 2020 lockdown.


As I mentioned before, there are at least a half a dozen other visa agent options for people who are so broke they cannot absorb a normal cost of living increase.


If those people vote with their wallets, I still expect her to have the number one visa agency in town when the dust settles.


Peace, my friend ๐Ÿ™

It2VN

This topic is in my thoughts, too.

I've been in Da Nang three weeks and it's great so far.

I came in on a 90day Multi-entry visa on my Italian passport.

I will probably go to Hong Kong for a few days in September (within my 90 days) to visit a friend. Aside from that maybe no other international travel I foresee.


I saw a guy post on FB a few weeks' ago '5 top tips on living in VN' or something similar.

One of the tips was re. visa runs.

Tip #3, He said: " I planned a 9-day trip to Thailand and trying applying for a 90 day visa there... long story short, mistakes were flagged, I got vague error messages and never heard back in time. Lesson learned: I used *** for a same day trip to Laos. Exhausting but effective....".


I sent him a message asking for some details. "Were mistakes made by you or was it another factor?"


He replied today: "The responses I got were wrong name and wrong passport number.... they looked good to me.... I'm headed back and I used *** this time. I think it was 70$. They took a week about. The first time I went to VN I did the visa myself, but renewing it did not work, so I did the bus trip with ***, maybe it was $200. That is a long day and I do not recommend it. From now I will leave the country and have *** get me back."


I'm unsure here whether he means he got another 3 month visa or a shorter one.


I have British and Italian passports so I'm wondering what to do when my time arrives. Both passports allow 45 days visa free entry.

I'm wondering whether there could be any problem with going to a neighbouring country for a couple of days at the end of my current 3 month visa, then buying another 3 month visa but on my British passport.

I imagine others have done this? Does it go smoothly?ย  What visa lengths does *** obtain for clients?

Aidan in HCMC

This topic is in my thoughts, too.
I've been in Da Nang three weeks and it's great so far.
I came in on a 90day Multi-entry visa on my Italian passport.
I will probably go to Hong Kong for a few days in September (within my 90 days) to visit a friend. Aside from that maybe no other international travel I foresee.
I saw a guy post on FB a few weeks' ago '5 top tips on living in VN' or something similar.
One of the tips was re. visa runs.
Tip #3, He said: " I planned a 9-day trip to Thailand and trying applying for a 90 day visa there... long story short, mistakes were flagged, I got vague error messages and never heard back in time. Lesson learned: I used *** for a same day trip to Laos. Exhausting but effective....".

I sent him a message asking for some details. "Were mistakes made by you or was it another factor?"

He replied today: "The responses I got were wrong name and wrong passport number.... they looked good to me.... I'm headed back and I used *** this time. I think it was 70$. They took a week about. The first time I went to VN I did the visa myself, but renewing it did not work, so I did the bus trip with ***, maybe it was $200. That is a long day and I do not recommend it. From now I will leave the country and have *** get me back."

There could be a couple of different reasons for the denial/delay in his eVisa application approval. Members from several different countries have reported difficulty in getting approval, and local agents have confirmed that there is a list of countries where enhanced scrutiny is applied to applications from the citizens of those countries. Would be interesting to know his nationality.

It might also be that he had exited VN via a land border crossing, in which case immigration would not be aware of his exiting for up to 7 or 8 work/business days, bringing application approval time to ~11 days (minimum). This delay is specific to land border crossings. Exiting by air, immigration is aware immediately of one's departure. The reason for the land crossing delay is due to the VN Military (which mans all land border crossings) not sharing the same database as VN Immigration (which mans all air departure gates).

I'm unsure here whether he means he got another 3 month visa or a shorter one.

It looks to be that he got a single-entry 90 day eVisa, at a cost of $70 US ($25US eVisa fee, plus $45US visa agent fee).

I have British and Italian passports so I'm wondering what to do when my time arrives. Both passports allow 45 days visa free entry.
I'm wondering whether there could be any problem with going to a neighbouring country for a couple of days at the end of my current 3 month visa, then buying another 3 month visa but on my British passport.

I don't see any problem with your doing that. I am curious, though. Why switch over to the British passport? Again, just curious.

I imagine others have done this? Does it go smoothly? What visa lengths does *** obtain for clients? - @It2VN

I'm not sure if you mean others having used different passports, or whether you mean spending a couple of days out of country waiting for approval of your new eVisa. If the latter, then yes, many people have done that. There have been reports from members of using different passports for alternative visa exempt entry, but none I recall where they'd used different passports for eVisa applications.

It2VN

Thanks for the input, Aidan.

The FB guy is from the U.S. it seems.


Re. The dual passport evisa idea: it was just a thought - to possibly avoid over-scrutiny of motives or movements by authorities. After having read the delays or complications resulting from expected renewals in a couple of days going without hiccup.. But now you explained the 2 database immigration situation it sounds a bit more ...reassuring (?) . I must say don't fancy a road border crossing visa run..ย  not the best of travellers in such a method of transportation.ย  But if it came down to it...ย 

Aidan in HCMC

Thanks for the input, Aidan.The FB guy is from the U.S. it seems.

Okay, good. The delay was due to his exiting via a land border crossing.

Re. The dual passport evisa idea: it was just a thought - to possibly avoid over-scrutiny of motives or movements by authorities.

I just took a quick look. The eVisa application asks whether you'd used any other passport to enter VN, the passport #, and the dates. I don't think you'd have difficulty with either of your passports. Both Italy and the UK appear to be on immigration's favoured list๐Ÿ˜€.ย  My advice would be to continue using your Italian passport (expiry date and number of free pages permitting). Immigration is very much aware of the border-run routines of foreigners, so no need to be worried about drawing attention to yourself (you're not that special!๐Ÿ˜‰).

After having read the delays or complications resulting from expected renewals in a couple of days going without hiccup.. But now you explained the 2 database immigration situation it sounds a bit more ...reassuring (?) . I must say don't fancy a road border crossing visa run.. not the best of travellers in such a method of transportation. But if it came down to it... - @It2VN

Agents can arrange for your out of country time to be reduced (even when exiting via land), for a fee of course. Many offer a 4 hour turn-around.

Let us know, when you're ready, if you'd like a referral to an agency which has earned the good reviews of our members. An active member on the forum, who resides in Da Nang, has the contact info of one such agent.


edit: You asked about the length of eVisas in your first post. I missed that in my reply.

EVisas can be valid for anywhere from 1 day, up to a maximum of 90 days. Agents have no control over that 90 day maximum.