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Using a bike rather than a Motorbike in a major city?

Dannyroc3

Does anyone have experience using a bike rather than a Motorbike?


I'd like to know how effective they are in a place Like HCMC or congested areas.


With all the hassle and expense of getting a motorbike, why don't more people use Bikes to get around?


I am mostly interested in the downside.  One thing that seems obvious is it is a lot harder to dodge other drivers as you navigate.


I wonder in HCMC, how difficult would it be to go from Dist. 1 to the airport area on a bike.


Does anyone rent bikes to try it out?

See also

Driving in VietnamHow to obtain the International Driver License in Vietnam?Vietnam driver's license?Scooter optionsBus from Thu Duc to District 1
ajairon

This will be only my point of view. 1) why don't more peaple uses bicycles?, well, in HCMC obviously the long distances, the temperature and the rain. A light weight bicycle is almost same price than a Motorbike.

2) how difficult? First you should be an expert walker  hahaha...  There is not sidewalks, because are parking zones (maybe "sidewalk" is not the good noun 😅) you cannot ride 1m from sidewalks because that is for walkers in the streets; and you cannot ride 2m from sidewalks because that is the line for motorbikes driving against the way.   

Final though: it is not impossible for a foreigner to ride in HCMC, just you need to learn how is to live without fellings of safety, just go, turn, and stop as none is arround you

OceanBeach92107

Does anyone have experience using a bike rather than a Motorbike?
I'd like to know how effective they are in a place Like HCMC or congested areas.

With all the hassle and expense of getting a motorbike, why don't more people use Bikes to get around?

I am mostly interested in the downside. One thing that seems obvious is it is a lot harder to dodge other drivers as you navigate.

I wonder in HCMC, how difficult would it be to go from Dist. 1 to the airport area on a bike.

Does anyone rent bikes to try it out? - @Dannyroc3

Maybe compromise with an e-bike?

jayrozzetti23

Does anyone have experience using a bike rather than a Motorbike?I'd like to know how effective they are in a place Like HCMC or congested areas.With all the hassle and expense of getting a motorbike, why don't more people use Bikes to get around?I am mostly interested in the downside. One thing that seems obvious is it is a lot harder to dodge other drivers as you navigate. I wonder in HCMC, how difficult would it be to go from Dist. 1 to the airport area on a bike. Does anyone rent bikes to try it out? - @Dannyroc3

As OceanBeach mentions above, an  e-bike might be a good choice. I had one when I lived in Vung Tau. These days VinFAst produces a number of cool looking models that resemble scooters and minibikes.


Here's an old article from CNN:


It seems to me that the main downside of a bike would be lack of ability to quickly accelerate after stopping. An e-bike doesn't have that problem.


One drawback of e-bikes is that make very little noise so sometimes in traffic people do not notice you.

Dannyroc3

One of the attractions of a bike was the cheap price and if you relocate you can leave it behind.

I imagine they charge from a regular wall outlet but if I park it in a downstairs garage, it could be recharging it would be a problem.

Google sent me an add (after opening this topic) on the huge network of those blue bikes I have seen where its checked in an out by an app. That might be a good choice or an opportunity to try a regular bike out. 

Lennerd

@Dannyroc3


I bought and ride a bicycle all over the place in District 1 and 3. I bought it at a bike shop locally in D 3. Here's what I wrote to a friend back in North America:


The first bit is that I bought a bicycle and have really, really enjoyed riding it around the core of Ho Chi Minh City, aka District 1, where I live. Traffic here by American standards is chaotic. On the other hand, my correspondents in India think that Vietnamese drivers are forgiving, accommodating, patient, and full of kindness. Perhaps that indicates that traffic in India is even more chaotic and replete with aggressive drivers. Almost nobody here is an aggressive driver and when I get in a Grab car (the local version of Uber) and the driver is the least bit aggressive, I really notice because most people here just don’t drive like that. Americans will be surprised at the amount of horn honking that goes on. Here it is not an emergency or even a close call that provokes such an action. Honking one’s horn here means, “Here I am, please notice me! Here I am! Steer clear of me, please!†It is definitely polite, not rude.


In the United States, the concept of who has “the right-of-way†is foundational to how traffic flows. That is not the case here. One indication is that there are many, many large intersections here that are completely uncontrolled: no traffic light, no stop sign, no yield sign, no traffic cop. Nothing.


Here's my take. Traffic here is corpuscular. Buses, cars, motorcycles, bicycles, and pedestrians move as objects of various sizes in a liquid would move. A bus will lumber down the street with motorcycles buzzing all around it like gnats around a cow’s head. Once a flow, a stream, has been established, then that flow gets to go. Hence, a body of motorcycles will turn left in front of oncoming cars and the cars will yield to the flow of motorcycles. In contrast, in the USA, you never have the go-ahead to turn in front of an oncoming vehicle except when you have a left-turn green arrow. But there is another “rule.†The larger the vehicle, the more likely will its effort to “establish a flow†be respected: no motorcyclist will foolishly assert a “right of way†in front of a bus. Au contraire, the bus will turn left in front of a battalion of oncoming motorcycles with impunity. The motorcycles will change course like a flock of birds swarming first this way then that.


For pedestrians crossing the road in front of hundreds of motorcycles: just walk at a steady pace. The motorbike drivers will see your trajectory and either choose to go in front of you or behind you according to their line of travel and not even slightly inhibit your progress across the street. This only works with motorbikes. If there’s a car or bus in the traffic, do not do this!


Drivers are endlessly forgiving. A car making a U-turn on a busy street that’s too narrow to complete the turn will block traffic, back up, then go forward again in a three-point turn. No cars slowed by this maneuver will honk or crowd the turning car! Of course, those ubiquitous motorbikes will zoom first in front of the backing car then swerve and zoom behind it when it goes forward again, taking every possible opportunity for forward progress, like cells floating in a streaming liquid.


Because of the gearing on my bike, my initial acceleration at a green light is faster than the motorbikes. They quickly overtake me because my top speed can’t match theirs. I ride to the far right. The motor bikes just to my left, and the cars in the lane even further left. I like riding on one-way streets because the cars are usually a full lane or two away from me. The two dangers I see constantly are a) the possibility that a stopped car will open its driver’s door in my path and b) that in an intersection, my 360o vision will fail to see a vehicle making a sweeping left turn at a huge intersection where, say, a four-lane street crosses another four-lane street.


Suffice it to say, I love my 8-speed city bike and I’m not afraid to ride in traffic. Since I got my bike I’ve lost at least a kilogram of weight, too, a bonus. I know this because I also bought a bathroom scale. It has a switch on the bottom that says kg/lbs. I’ve gone full metric. 30 degrees Celsius is about 88 degrees Fahrenheit. 31 degrees is bloody hot. It feels cooler bike riding in the heat compared to walking, but I sweat profusely when I stop. As a result, today will be a three-shower day, once before getting dressed this morning, once after coming home from the ride, and once more before going to bed this evening.


Today for the first time, I rode my bike to the University of Social Sciences and Humanities where I started taking Vietnamese language class. There are at least a thousand motorbikes parked on the campus. I rode in not really knowing the protocol, following the motorized torrent. At the entrance booth I got a plastic card the size of a credit card and was waved forward. I cycled until I saw a few bikes parked and a sign in Vietnamese which read, according to Google translate’s camera function, “This area is for electric scooters and bicycle parking only.†I chained my bike there and noticed at least one bike that wasn’t even locked. After class I went back to the same booth in the lối ra (exit) lane. I handed the card back and was charged 2,000 Vietnam Dong, or approximately $0.08. The motorcycle parking fee is twice that!


I love Vietnam!